there's steve jobs. he's a genius. he has these amazing ideas. he gets a brilliant design team around him. he has as jack welsh points out, a brilliant system of delivery for his products. he gets it out there. fast and efficiently. and he sells it rauxd you go to china or india or europe. there are apples products, piled high. beautiful quality, incredibly reliable and they're available to all, selling like hot cakes and he is a brilliant marketeer, too. that kind of thing that america needs so much more of. identifying products to the whole world. >> it is happening in small ways. i've met so many start-up entrepreneurs all around the country. it is much harder for them to make it work now. but it is still happening. that's for me, the hope for the future. as a greek, as a naturalized american, as a double dose of optimism. so i don't want to leave our viewers depressed. that sense of ingenuity. that entrepreneurial spirit is very much alive. what we need to do is to overcome the dysfunctional nature of our government at the moment that is real